Edwin Chen is the Founder and CEO of Surge. Founded in 2020, Surge has scaled to $1BN+ in revenue with zero external funding. At the same time, their competitor, Scale.ai raised over $1.3BN to reach $850M ARR. Today, Surge have the world’s largest model providers as customers and have just 120 employees.
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In Today’s Episode We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
01:05 Why 90% of Big Tech Is Wasting Time on Useless Problems
05:58 How Surge Kills Meetings and Still Moves 10x Faster
08:05 100x Engineers Are Real
13:51 Founding Surge AI
26:29 “No Sales Team, No PR, No BS”
38:54 The Real Reason AGI Might Take Until 2040
43:58 Why the Real Bottleneck in AI Isn’t Compute or Models
49:58 Will Synthetic Data Kill Human Labelling?
56:15 The Price of a $10B Company?
58:43 Quick-Fire Round
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